moosedman a day ago

These guys are determined to bring about a French Revolution here by any means necessary lol.

Edit: I would care about this a lot less if I wasn't watching so many American recent graduates of really good engineering programs struggle to land even an interview much less a job with a tech company. You can't betray people like this and not expect a vicious blowback.

  • quantified 21 hours ago

    Nah, you see how government mobilizes for one CEO who had truly broad-based loathing. Americans worship the rich more than any other religion now. And if it's bad for profits (like paying more to get people with a high standard of living motivated), it's just bad.

    It's quite similar to the agricultural and construction workers, except for the visa situation.

b3ing 21 hours ago

They won’t do anything about this. India will own the software industry if AI doesn’t, either over there or here. Cheap labor always wins.

So many hiring managers are biased as well

  • NerdSniper9001 4 hours ago

    Ok so it is settled we will shut down the program. Thanks for your blessing!

gsf_emergency 2 hours ago

Ross Douthat's tweet linked to in TFA is far more nuanced AND concise, maybe switch the link to https://x.com/DouthatNYT/status/1872341885790126252

>The American Way is a complex jock-nerd dialectic (see e.g. our way of war or the Apollo Project) not some sort of drama of the diligent and gifted nerd simply overcoming jockish ignorance and sloth

toss1 21 hours ago

As with the rest of the corporations who hire immigrants, it's "deportations for thee, but keep the workers for me"; deport everyone else's workers, but not mine.

I'd be more OK with Musk's and Ramaswamy's demands if the H1-B structure were changed so that workers could change jobs at will once here. As it is, they are effectively indentured servants, and are only (ab)used because they can lower wage costs.

Until 99% of all US tech workers are fully as employed as they want to be and can send out a resume and get multiple interviews in days, there is zero reason to hire overseas (other than trying to exploit workers). When highly educated, experienced, and qualified US tech workers can go months sending out resumes without so much as a nibble, yet corporations are onboarding as many H1Bs as they can, there is something deeply wrong with the system.

[edit; add:] And yes, there should be room for the truly exceptional people from overseas who WILL actually help the US make great progress, but they are actually being crowded out by the current corrupt exploitative H1-B process. Making it competitive so H1-B employees can leave at will for another employer (possibly after a reasonable waiting/working period of months) would also help make the system better advance the US technology position in several ways.

joeyagreco 20 hours ago

> noncitizens in the U.S. should "automatically" get green cards when they graduate from college

Personally, I think this could be a great policy.

  • NerdSniper9001 4 hours ago

    Are you brown? I seriously only hear this bullshit from Indians or Indian-worshippers. It is tiresome. It is the most bullshit pandering low-IQ bait I've heard in years. Fuck em. Stay in India.

  • devvvvvvv 17 hours ago

    You should take a trip to Canada, or just do 10 minutes of research on diploma mills. I'm not interested in turning America into a suburb of India.